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mrbeefybus

Greetings and need help: quilt with mass-loaded vinyl inside

So first off - thanks for reading this! New here, and sorry to open with a question, but I gotta be that guy.

We're building a school-bus-to-RV conversion, and I wish to fabricate what are essentially small quilts that will go over each window. These quilts will primarily serve as much-needed thermal / sound insulation.

The layers of the quilt will be as follows: 1) cotton/light canvas (facing interior of bus), batting (thinsulate), 1/16" thick mass-loaded vinyl, metallized fabric  (facing window). 

I have little experience sewing, but if not for the last 2 components I could probably muddle through and ultimately end up with a passable result after some trial & error. But these components are critical, and have me scratching my head regarding needle & thread choices.

The mass-loaded vinyl is, as the name suggests, quite dense and heavy, with a make-up similar to neoprene rubber, and quite thick at 1/16". This is required for noise insulation and making these quilts non-vapor-permeable.

The metalized cloth is facing out for rejection of infrared (sunshine). It is very thin, and while I honestly don't know what it's comprised of, it isn't much at all different from the interior-facing cotton other than the fact it's metalized on one side and thus completely opaque. It's basically the same stuff you'd find lining the inside of one of those non-rigid food/beverage coolers.

What I want to ask is: A) what type and size of needle would you suggest to go through all these layers with differing properties? B) what type / weight of thread would you suggest? C) would another interior-facing fabric other than what I listed above be more suitable for the job?

FWIW, My machine is a Kenmore 158.13011 (1970s, made in japan) with a high-shank foot (walking / even-flow foot is on the way).

Thanks so much in advance for any help y'all could provide!

- Jody

 

· 2 days ago
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Hi Jody, Wow this is such an exciting project!! I'd love to see some photos of the progress! 

In terms of your questions.... I haven't ever sewn with those materials so can't give first hand knowledge here... but I would imagine you'd need a heavy-duty needle like a denim/jeans needle or something around size 100 or larger. 

For the thread you are going to want to spend on a good quality one - cheaper stuff you get in markets are likely to snap. Gutermann is my choice of thread, polyester is pretty strong. 

I will pop this thread in the Sunday Digest to highlight it and see if anyone has any other suggestions

· 2 days ago
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mrbeefybus

Thanks so much for the response and encouragement, SewHayleyJane! I appreciate you.

I'll start experimenting with 100/16 needles as you suggest! I've just ordered a few different varities in that size, including the denim (thanks!), leather, top-stitch, and non-stick. Whatever I don't use for this I'm sure I'll use for something else as this will not be the end for similar projects on this bus. As for thread, Gutermann makes a polyester 'extra strong' upholstery thread... do you think that would be suitable? To my way of thinking the stronger the better, but there may be downsides to that approach that I'm unaware of. The border of these 'quilts' will potentially see quite a bit of stress as I hope to sew in strong magnets that will ultimately hold these up (corresponding to hidden magnets installed in the woodwork of the window frames). For each quilt (~26" w x 32" l), the combination of all components sans the border material and magnets weighs in at ~3.5 lbs / 1.6 Kg.

i'd be happy to share pictures! I'll update this thread sometime in the future as things progress :)

· 1 day ago

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